The Buddha visits Sakuladāyi at the Moranivāpa near Rājagaha and their talk turns on perfection. The Buddha points out that Sakuladāyi's conception of perfection is vague and undefined, and proves, on examination, empty and faulty. In answer to Sakuladāyi's question as to what the Buddha would define as absolute bliss, the Buddha explains the four Jhānas and the destruction of the āsavas. Sakuladāyi is converted (M.ii.29ff). The sutta also contains references to the teachings of Nigantha Nātaputta.